A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

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Action Steps You Need to Take Now - March 27, 2009

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  • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

    Tue, March 31, 2009 - 8:33 AM
    Ok. This is a new low. It is not just viral misinformation to pass legislation designed to favor their lobby and their very much self serving agenda. It is also marketing spam.
    • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

      Tue, March 31, 2009 - 11:04 AM
      I couldn't find a Bill #___ anywhere in that mess of a post there,
      but in case this is the same topic, here's something I got the other day:

      --------------------------
      Say it ain't so!!!
      It ain't so.

      To set the record straight:

      There is no language in HR 875 that would regulate, penalize, or shut down backyard gardens or
      criminalize gardeners; the bill focuses on ensuring the safety of food in interstate commerce.

      Farmer's markets would not be regulated, fined, or shut down, and would, in fact, benefit from
      strict safety standards applied to imported food to ensure that unsafe imported food doesn't
      compete with locally grown produce.

      The bill would not prohibit or interfere with organic farming, or mandate the use of any chemicals
      or types of seeds. The National Organic Program (NOP) is under the jurisdiction of the USDA.
      HR 875 addresses food safety issues and falls under the jurisdiction of the FDA.

      Monsanto and any other large agribusiness company had no part whatsoever in drafting this bill.


      crooksandliars.com/nonny-mo...-take-two


      www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd

      ----------------------------


      I haven't researched this myself, but Question your Inbox.
      Maybe find the actual piece of legislation and read it... failing that, who knows what's in there?

      • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

        Tue, March 31, 2009 - 11:56 AM
        Actually we discussed that here already but the person who posted it obviously deleted it when they didn't get the response that they wanted but instead got a reasoned discussion that showed up their propaganda and astroturf activism for what it was. Seriously, General Stubblebine and his insane wife? He's the same person who invented torture techniques using Barney the Dinosaur (seriously, look him up!) - why would anybody believe he has ANYONE's best interests at heart other than his own?
        • Unsu...
           

          Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

          Tue, March 31, 2009 - 6:58 PM
          I'm pretty sure the moderator deleted the post because the last person who made a comment used the post as an excuse to spread his homophobic agenda and hate, which was completely out of topic and uncalled for.
          • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

            Thu, April 2, 2009 - 9:34 AM
            Sorry if I posted any crappy stuff. My intentions was to copy and paste the proposed bill info . That was just the forwarded email I got. Disregard any advertising. Just make sure you sign the petition and call white house to speak out. It seems ridiculous they would take away organic rights, but it's best to be safe.
            • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

              Thu, April 2, 2009 - 9:54 AM
              Joy - Members of the tribe already discussed this bill but the poster deleted it when it was clear after discussion that they were promoting disinfo and not the truth. You're essentially laying down the same astroturf again, we're organic here but we don't have mulch for brains! ;-)
              • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                Thu, April 2, 2009 - 9:57 AM
                Healthfreedomusa churns out astroturf and General Stubblebine is invovled with the military and in creating all kinds of torture techniques (recently used at Guantanamo Bay). If you're looking for a conspiracy you may want to start with the professional conspirators who make a living off devising ways to hurt people and control their thoughts and actions...you know, like General Stubblebine and his freak of a wife (who's like a Scientologist on crack!).
                • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                  Thu, April 2, 2009 - 10:02 AM
                  Considering that the original post here is just marketing for products - using fear as a marketing technique - I have to wonder they work so hard to plant the seeds of fake fears when there's so much real weeding of our shared social garden to be done. Go into your garden, pick some food, eat it. Tend to your relationships, grow them so they nourish you. Vitamins and supplements are a scam, food and community are good.
        • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

          Wed, April 1, 2009 - 5:19 AM
          These spammers really know no bounds when it comes to making up lies! Since our lovely moderator is a woman and I've never even seen her intervene here, let alone delete posts while being homophobic, it's clear that this spam comes with destructive trolls. Too bad some innocent people get sucked into being distributors for General Stubblebine's weird astroturf propaganda. Him and his wife have got to be some of the weirdest and creepiest people going...she's like a Scientologist on crack and he's involved in some of the weirdest military mind and crowd control stuff out there (much of it using sound as a weapon for torture and crowd control).
          • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

            Wed, April 1, 2009 - 6:04 AM
            It's like an unending shit storm. It feeds off of , and then feeds into the alienation and distrust that sees nefarious plots in anything sufficiently complicated enough to need actual thought to figure out. Once a critical mass of screaming ninnies is reached, and a search on a topic yields hundreds of copy cat garbage misinformation and little else, then folks feel comfortable "thinking" that it MUST be true, or so many people would not be so upset. It is a real problem and it is not going to go away on its own. I think it is a sacred responsibility of all who can figure this type of thing to shine as bright a light as they can bring to bear on the darkness that make this sort of thing possible, and, one must assume, somehow profitable.
            • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

              Wed, April 1, 2009 - 6:49 AM
              wil - The irony of spam that comes from General Stubblebine's weird healthfreedomusa site is that it seems to all be disinfo (aimed at selling vitamins and supplements, and other "wellness" products, ultimately). I'd assume it's really all just about money but it IS a bit hard not to wonder if there are other motivations when the person in question has spent their career developing sonic weapons, torture techniques and attempting to create "new earth" armies of supernatural warriors. A great way to disempower movements for change is to channel people's energy into dead end astroturf activism where they actually end up fighting against their own best interests (and real freedom of choice and informed consent). If you can sow the seeds of mistrust and make naive but earnest people look totally silly in the process, so much the better.

              It's a bit hard to know what to make of it all since it's all so damn weird and twisted but it is worth having some idea of who one is dealing with - I first heard about Stubblebine from an excellent book titled The Men Who Stare At Goats by a British journalist.

              www.think-aboutit.com/conspir...nder.htm

              www.jonronson.com/goats_04.html

              The world really is much weirder than we can imagine! I agree wil, when we see people being exploited and used - and lies being spread - it's important to speak up. Particularly when the passion and energy of caring people is being exploited for the cheap commercial ends of people who clearly have little love of humanity or grounding in integrity, or any real love of gardening and nature!
    • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

      Tue, March 31, 2009 - 11:51 AM
      I wish the spammers would stop posting this propaganda here. Organic doesn't mean mulch for brains!
      • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

        Thu, April 2, 2009 - 9:40 AM
        P.S. I am not huge into protesting, in fact never have, but there are powerful forces out there against the organic movement. When people get healthier, the drug companies suffer and loose money. Massachusetts has blocked various rights of midwives.
        • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

          Thu, April 2, 2009 - 11:21 AM
          Having looked at the site and read what was being said...

          Its advertising pure and simple...
          • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

            Sat, April 4, 2009 - 3:53 AM
            OK' I got this from a reputable dealer of herbs and suppliments'

            CODEX'

            It is also very important to be informed about the Codex Alimentarius. The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1963 to develop food standards and guidelines under the Joint FAO/WHO Food Standards Programme. The main purposes of this Programme are protecting health of the consumers and ensuring fair trade practices in the food trade, and promoting coordination of all food standards work undertaken by international governmental and non-governmental organizations. In the early 1990s, Codex began to look at establishing internationally harmonized standards for food supplements. But it appears that the strongest effect of this Directive will be to cut off availability of all vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and most other essential nutrients by re-classifying them as pharmaceutical drugs, eventually available by prescription only and manufactured by pharmaceutical companies from synthetic materials, including genetically engineered substances. People who consider Codex Alimentarius as benevolent consumer protection or as harmless to their health freedom are seriously mistaken. It has nothing to do with consumer protection. It has everything to do with the economic ambitions of multi-national corporations, in particular the pharmaceutical industry.

            "If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex Alimentarius is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly of the major pharmaceutical firms." -John Hammell, founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom.

            The Codex is targeted to go into full global effect by January 1st 2010.

            What has this person got to gain by posting this' other than educating folks ot of what is happening with CODEX'

            I see a lot of shouting bullshit here' but no one has comeback with solid facts'

            So look out' Jan 2010'
            If we do no thing about this' it shall be passed as law behind our backs' whilst we are looking to the wars in the east'

            Ez

            Nobuoni +
            • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

              Sat, April 4, 2009 - 4:16 AM
              We have covered this on this tribe and many others over and over. The threads disappear as they are pulled by the people who start them. I can see how people would fear the codex alimentarius and the food safety bill as they are complex and easy to misunderstand.

              The codex alimentarious is voluntary!!! for nations, not mandatory in the first place, and there is approximately zero chance that the u.s. or canadian govts would pass such legislation. It sets international standards for trade in herbs and supplements for less developed nations that do not have any. It is to be used in cases of internation disputes, and i think it a much much better idea than bombing the offending country for their slack ass practices. Please take some time to check it out!

              en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_alimentarius

              I buy herbs from china regularly, and would like to feel better about the chance of them being contaminated with lead. This is a method for the world to regulate this sort of thing for the benefit of nations and peoples without the wherewithal to test for lead themselves.

              The campaign against this bill was started and is continued by insane clowns aided by millions of people who are misled into fearing something that means them no ill, and actually the opposite. The bill is being fought by parties with something to gain from the continuance of the current unregulated system.
            • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

              Sat, April 4, 2009 - 4:20 AM
              I'd like to reiterate that the fearful charges against the codex alimentarius and the food safety bill are total lies, not just misrepresentations. This whole campaign is built on outright lies told for economic advantage by some very unsavory people. This is an attempted hijacking of the organic movement by what amounts to a self serving virus and it should be fought by all who have the strength of mind to see through it and the heart to resist evil.
              • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                Sat, April 4, 2009 - 4:37 AM

                Unfortunately, both the European Supplements Directive and the Codex Alimentarius Vitamin and Mineral Guidelines were approved - despite your and our efforts to prevent this from happening. There is some good news as well: Both of these pieces of international legislation were heavily contested. Your signature and campaigns by others contributed to this. Consequently, neither the EU directive nor the Codex guidelines spell out detailed limits for supplements.

                The battleground has therefore shifted to a new area: Those details that were left out and how the 'blanks' are going to be filled in.

                On the European Food Supplements Directive, there are ongoing scientific discussions about limitations of dosage and allowed ingredients for supplements. The leading force in these discussions is the Alliance For Natural Health.
                Their site: www.alliance-natural-health.org/

                On Codex Alimentarius, there is a similar situation.
                The text of the guidelines is vague and much depends on what countries do with it. Attention is therefore shifting to how each country implements these guidelines into national laws or decides to ignore them.

                From input from a supplier' "Holland" is going the same way as "Norway" the UK is still argueing the details of how to implement the guidelines'
                So no thing is out of the woods'

                You call this supplier in Holland' unsavory and attempting to hijack the organic movement' that he has a self serving virus'
                He has had to stop trading !
                What has he gained from this experience' other than having to abide by outside control ?
                Your comments wil come over as if no one shall/is be effected by these guidelines'


                Blessings

                Nobuoni +
                • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                  Sat, April 4, 2009 - 4:59 AM
                  I think people will be positively affected by these guidelines. I think we need guidelines and i think these are good faith and well thought out attempts at enacting such guidelines.

                  Yes, the provisions of the codex are not law in nations but guidelines and not mandatory. This is certainly not what the propaganda against it has been claiming for several years.

                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                    Sat, April 4, 2009 - 12:33 PM
                    I'm much more interested in growing food than fear, it's much more nourishing for body, mind and soul.
                    • Re: A DANGEROUS PROPOSED BILL...

                      Sun, April 5, 2009 - 3:24 PM
                      Hmmm. I am so surprised at all the excitement these new proposed food bills have created. Our food system is quite a mess, it seems, and that leaves many of us unsure about its security. I've seen this on other tribes, too.

                      I try to practice the below two guidelines to avoid panic in these situations.

                      1. trust I'm doing my part by continuing to support locals (purchasing )and organics (purchasing and growing)
                      2. when I see info or news about something startling, read it with an open mind, relax the fear response, and find a source I know I can trust (i.e. it's their job to keep on top of this stuff). there are a lot of non-profits out there that do this for us. I may not have mulch for brains, but I admit i'm not that thoroughly knowledgeable on government, policies, and the situation of the food system (except what I learn through my job). my sources for info are Food and Water Watch, Cornucopia Institute (I work here - we just did an analysis of three of the new food safety bills and have suggestions for concerned people), and a couple others my mind is blanking on right now but I can share if anyone is interested.

                      Sum of these bills from cornucopia - nothing RIGHT NOW to worry about, but there is always the need to voice our wants and needs to those in power who don't yet know what mulch even is (to continue Fifi's fun expression) and need some compost in their brains.

                      Peace (turning spam into usefulness?),
                      Lynn

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