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    <title>Codex Alimentarius - Control of all Food globally by 2009</title>
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    <author>
      <name>mystica</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d776b580-cdd6-41bf-a279-55e8ddb43e9f</id>
    <updated>2008-07-08T20:42:42Z</updated>
    <published>2008-03-16T18:36:12Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Codex Alimentarius” means “food rules” in Latin. The organization was born in 1962 when the UN established the Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) as a “Trade Commission”. It was created to regulate, and thus control, every aspect of how food and nutritional supplements are produced and sold to the consumer. It is solely about trade and the profits of multi-national corporations. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The more natural health products people use, the fewer drugs they use. Millions are turning to natural health. Big Pharma fears this as it would diminish profits. Codex is designed to protect Big Pharma profits by eliminating natural health products and treatments. Health food stores and wellness companies would be hit hard. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Codex is unscientific because it classifies nutrients as toxins and uses “Risk Assessment” to set ultra low so-called “safe upper limits” for them. Risk Assessment is a branch of Toxicology, the science for assessing toxins. The proper science for assessing nutrients is Biochemistry. Codex does not use Biochemistry. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Codex is based on the Napoleonic Code, dating back to Bonaparte. Under this code, anything not explicitly permitted is automatically forbidden. Under Common Law (our system), something does not have to be explicitly permitted to be legal. The tyrannical Napoleonic Code allows the banning of natural health options by default. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Codex will go into global effect on December 31, 2009, unless we, the People, take action and avert it. Right now, we are like a frog boiled slowly, the heat raised gradually so we won’t jump out of the water. The media is used to make us believe that Codex is about “consumer protection”. Part of the media strategy is to tarnish the image of natural health options, through for-hire studies. 
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&lt;br/&gt;One-time defenders of supplements and nutritional products, such as the National Nutritional Foods Association (NNFA) and Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), have fallen prey to new pharmaceutical members and are spreading disinformation saying that Codex is “consumer protection”. Their boards used to be run by health freedom fighters. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The U.S. has a powerful legal tool for health freedom: the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA), passed in 1994 after massive grass-roots action. DSHEA scientifically classifies nutritional supplements as food and prevents dosage restrictions; Codex unscientifically classifies them as toxins and sets ultra-low doses. The VMG violates U.S. law because it violates DSHEA. We must unite to protect DSHEA, our best legal defense against Codex. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The pharmaceutical industry works through irresponsible/corrupt politicians to do their bidding. The path to institute Codex in America is to “influence” Congress to pass laws friendly to drugs and unfriendly to nutritional supplements, so that slowly everyone comes to believe that nutrients are “dangerous”, and drugs are “proper medicine”. Susan Davis (D, CA) and other politicians are helping Big Pharma by supporting bills designed to destroy DSHEA. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) has two committees which impact nutrition.
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&lt;br/&gt;One of them, the “Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses” (CCNFSDU), is chaired by Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, a physician who believes that nutrition has no role in health. This is the “top-guy” for Codex nutritional policy, and he has stated that “nutrition is not relevant to health”.
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&lt;br/&gt;As unbelievable as it may sound, Dr. Grossklaus actually declared nutrients to be toxins in 1994 and instituted the use of toxicology (Risk Assessment) to prevent nutrients from having any impact on humans who take supplements! It is worth mentioning that Dr. Grossklaus happens to own the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on this issue. This company makes money when its toxicology services are used for the “assessment” of nutrients. Here in the U.S. we call that a “conflict of interest”.
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&lt;br/&gt;Codex is made up of thousands of standards and guidelines. One of them, the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline (VMG), is designed to permit only ultra low doses of vitamins and minerals (and make clinically effective nutrients illegal). How can the VMG restrict dosages of vitamins and minerals? By using Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess nutrients.
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&lt;br/&gt;While Risk Assessment is a legitimate science (it is a branch of toxicology), it is the wrong science for assessing nutrients! In fact, in this context, it is actually junk science. Biochemistry, the science of life processes, is the correct science for assessing nutrients. Codex Alimentarius treats nutrients as toxins, which is literally insane.
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&lt;br/&gt;Nutrients are not toxins - they are essential for life!!
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=157 
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&lt;br/&gt;Start saving Seeds!!!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>mystica</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-03-16T18:36:12Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>coffee grounds</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Lorenzo</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/efe9bfb3-228f-46de-b56d-4363333d9523</id>
    <updated>2008-07-08T13:52:12Z</updated>
    <published>2008-07-03T23:38:45Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;does anyone have experience using coffee grounds?  someone told me to collect them but i don't know what they are good for.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-03T23:38:45Z</dc:date>
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    <title>powdery mildew on my maples</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tatiana</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/fdfd6446-73da-4639-9223-626c4223e29f</id>
    <updated>2008-07-08T03:57:05Z</updated>
    <published>2008-07-07T06:14:29Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;my huge maple trees are all covered in white stuff :-((( gotta do something about it!i think last year there was a discussion on it and several people were going to try baking soda, milk and neem oil i believe... what were the outcomes? &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-07T06:14:29Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>evil darn catapillars</title>
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      <name>sentient1</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/979899de-4333-48f6-b87b-074b64d3a865</id>
    <updated>2008-07-06T12:56:48Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-21T00:14:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt; my little herb garden(seedlings) are being munched away on by creatures. I found one fat catapillar this morning and picked it off.     Not sure if that is the only one or there are families deciding to vacation for the summer.
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&lt;br/&gt;I was using a powder version of Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) but it did not seem to slow them down.      What do you all of you recommend?
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&lt;br/&gt;I've looked up suggestions on line at GARDENERS.com http://www.gardeners.com/Pest%20and%20Disease%20Finder/5285,default,pg.html       Looks like some stuff can not be shipped to CA
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&lt;br/&gt;thanks for your help!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-21T00:14:43Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Blossom End Rot</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Laurie</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/6655aeb2-956c-4434-a791-21057c7571ca</id>
    <updated>2008-07-04T21:52:03Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-13T06:40:23Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I am feeling a little saddened, as the tomatoes I have been waiting to ripen are showing signs of blossom end rot. It is my first time growing tomatoes, and after doing some research on the problem, am still unsure if I should just pluck the unlucky tomatoes off right away or wait and see if the problem will stay superficial. If I wait and see, will this bad tomato end up using the plant's energy to no good purpose, when instead it could use that energy towards producing new healthier (hopefully) fruits? &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-13T06:40:23Z</dc:date>
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    <title>growing wheat</title>
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      <name>amyirish</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/1ca38ac3-03be-4ba9-9f52-3bc49a3468b6</id>
    <updated>2008-07-04T03:36:48Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-29T14:31:23Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Have any of y'all tried growing wheat?  Around here farmers grow lots of winter wheat and I'm wondering if I can grow some for myself out in the garden.
&lt;br/&gt;I like bread flour with a coarser texture anyway so it seems like a good fit.
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&lt;br/&gt;What do you all think?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>amyirish</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-29T14:31:23Z</dc:date>
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    <title>New Bay Area Locavores tribe</title>
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    <author>
      <name>hexkitten</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/c7f1857c-3228-469a-a13d-867259b52e51</id>
    <updated>2008-06-29T23:42:04Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-29T22:39:43Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/sflocavoreexchange
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&lt;br/&gt;Please join if you are inclined!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>hexkitten</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-29T22:39:43Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Need planter box liner that won't leach chemicals</title>
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      <name>wmlaven</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/3549def6-73ad-4548-aa3d-43b72c55e64e</id>
    <updated>2008-06-27T02:35:25Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I have built some large planter boxes out of redwood in which I'll plant organic vegetables and flowers. I want to line the inside of the boxes so they last longer (ie less soil to wood contact), but need to use a liner material that won't break down and leach chemicals. This is on an organic farm that will soon undergo certification so I need a materiel that won't hurt our veges nor compromise our organic certification process.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>wmlaven</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-27T02:35:25Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Grasshoppers and NOLO BAIT</title>
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      <name>Dreamie / DreamEagle / Christophe</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/81647552-cbf1-4c72-bd15-6c22685bca60</id>
    <updated>2008-06-24T20:12:12Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-17T03:36:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Its been very hot and dry here and the grasshopper population is insane. I have hundreds of babies munching every thing in site. I put some DE around the tender greens a few days ago and it seems to be working, The only problem with it is that it has to be replaced daily because the water washes it away every time I feed the plants.     One of my gardener friends gave me some NOLO Bait to try. I understand the gist of what it does. Has anyone had luck with it.  Does it actually work??&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Dreamie / DreamEagle / Christophe</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-17T03:36:11Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Parrot Poop -- Fertilizer?</title>
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      <name>ttuerff</name>
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    <updated>2008-06-20T14:19:30Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-19T00:28:01Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey, all -- I have two conures that produce copious amounts of shit. I've just been tossing it but suddenly occurred to me: Can some of this avian guano be used for fertilizer? They eat seeds and "special mix" processed bird food. (Rainbow colored stuff.) 
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&lt;br/&gt;Input? 
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&lt;br/&gt;TT&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>ttuerff</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-19T00:28:01Z</dc:date>
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    <title>raspberry plants</title>
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      <name>Nadia</name>
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    <updated>2008-06-17T01:30:07Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-14T22:43:47Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;so,
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&lt;br/&gt;the boyscouts group was selling raspberry plants; my friend brought two pots home. Each pot (I think) has three canes. one of them is flowering... what would you suggest is the best way to transplant them?
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&lt;br/&gt;thanks :)
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&lt;br/&gt;nadia&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Nadia</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-14T22:43:47Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Unhappy apple trees</title>
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      <name>lori</name>
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    <updated>2008-06-16T03:04:22Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-12T16:59:02Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;A friend overpruned her apple trees winter before last.  For the second year in a row there are very few blooms.  Is there anything I can do to help these trees?  Will they recover?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>lori</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-12T16:59:02Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>bokashi</title>
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      <name>matt</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/9c91ade6-b4d7-4634-a595-8769c70e716e</id>
    <updated>2008-06-12T21:33:38Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-12T21:33:38Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I am making bokashi with coffee grounds to add to my compost. 
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&lt;br/&gt;It is very simple to make and is anaerobic, so it will thrive inside a pile filled with chicken manure.
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&lt;br/&gt;The recipe for 5 gallon bucket:
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&lt;br/&gt;1) Make a 1:1 ration of EM and molasses. 4 Tbsp. Put into 4 cups of water and let sit overnight.
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&lt;br/&gt;2) Procure enough substrate to fill your container. I use dried coffee grounds. Wheat bran is popular to use. Wood shavings, food scraps,   
&lt;br/&gt;     etc.
&lt;br/&gt;    The most important thing is to make sure that the end product has around 30% moisture. This can be determined by a strong man
&lt;br/&gt;    squeeze. A nice hard squeeze should produce a few drops of water. 
&lt;br/&gt;3) Mix the EM mixture into the substrate in a container. Wheelbarrows work well. Mix thoroughly. Add water until desired moisture level. 
&lt;br/&gt;4) Fill into the bucket packing down firmly every few inches till full.
&lt;br/&gt;5) Cap the lid on airtight and wait three weeks for fermentation. 
&lt;br/&gt;6) After three weeks spread the bokashi out to dry. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The bokashi is now ready to use. It contains millions of beneficial organisms and can be applied under mulch layers, mixed in with planting soil, or thrown in with compost. It will store dry in a cool shaded spot for a long time. If left wet and exposed to air, it will funk up pretty quick so drying is very important. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Any thoughts?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-12T21:33:38Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Flea Beetle control</title>
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      <name>Steve e</name>
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    <updated>2008-06-11T17:12:53Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-05T23:01:42Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I have a wicked bad time with flea beetles last year.  Only one eggplant outgrew them well enough to produce a lot of fruits.  I think I finally ended up using spinosad and deciding it didn't work very well. Same with diatomaceous earth, though maybe if I apply it earlier this year.  Has anyone had much luck in controlling serious infestations of them?  I'm leaning toward remay as a barrier, but I hate to buy that crap.  It's landfill waiting to happen and doesn't last very long.  I know they are supposed to prefer dry hot conditions which I have, but that's a little hard to control consistently here.  I noticed today that they're starting in again.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Steve e</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-05T23:01:42Z</dc:date>
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    <title>How to shade when no shade?</title>
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      <name>Lynn</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/26f3f59e-767a-4f39-a3e2-7d6674bcb231</id>
    <updated>2008-06-11T15:09:04Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-10T17:01:06Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My lettuce will be happily shaded by my cuc arches, but I see that my kale and my spinach may need some shading - how does one shade when there's no shade (and the beds are all planted)?  Thanks - Lynn&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-10T17:01:06Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Slugs and snails update......</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mandy</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/b9c09746-18fb-4d49-8cc1-e31038f3dec6</id>
    <updated>2008-06-10T05:42:24Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-10T05:42:24Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My friend has just told me about the nematode: Phasmarhabditis hermaphrodita.!!It needs to be applied (in uk) between march and october, although she reckons about now is the best time.Aparrently you' water it in ' and £20 will do about ten square metres, and so although expensive, if you keep it up annually , it should at least deter them a little....HOORAY!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-10T05:42:24Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Brown Spots on Leafy Plants</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Kai</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/e503ab44-3959-478d-9f9f-7bbcf5de27df</id>
    <updated>2008-06-10T03:14:06Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-10T00:30:27Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My backyard has a couple of Rose bushes in barrels that had signs of mildew, black-spot, scale/rust.  I think this is where the disease started. There was also signs of ear-wigs and some aphids.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I attempted the 3 teirred plan to address the disease and insect problem.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;1) Apply Beneficial Nematodes to the lawn/soil area to deal with the earwigs and other crawling leaf sucking bugs and fleas. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;2) Apply 70% Neeme Oil to plant leaves and especially the undersides of leaves to deal with various diseases and pest ( rust/black spot/scales/apphids/mildew/fungisides/mites/etc).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;3) Dust the patio/brick area with Concern Diatomaceous Earth as an additional way of dealing with crawling bugs/fleas/ants/etc. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;After Items 1 and 3, I started spraying all my leafy plants with 70% Neem Oil. This is my 2nd dose of Neem Oil in 10 days.  Now I am noticing a light-rust colored small dots starting to spread on some of the leaves. I have also found some small black dots that I can wipe off if I rub the leaf between my fingers, or use a finger nail to scrap the spot off. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I am thinking of using a damp washcloth to apply a bit more Neem Oil and to physical clean off the leaves. Is there anything else anyone can recommend? or suggest as to what this might be and how to combat it?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Ms.Kai&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-10T00:30:27Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>canteloupe</title>
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    <author>
      <name>amyirish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/3a5bbacb-a074-4cec-9467-7d91ad4d1fa9</id>
    <updated>2008-06-09T11:28:18Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-05T12:15:46Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;So my little cantaloupes are sprouted out on their hills.  I used black landscape plastic, like the book said.  It gets very hot here, do the plants really do well just laying on top of the plastic or should I put down a layer of straw to cushion them?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-05T12:15:46Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>slugs and snails</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/f5972967-6c99-4acb-a5ae-7beeb359737a" />
    <author>
      <name>Mandy</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/f5972967-6c99-4acb-a5ae-7beeb359737a</id>
    <updated>2008-06-09T06:05:43Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-21T07:08:29Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;because we get a lot of rain in the uk, we have to compete with these creatures to produce a crop! a really horrid tip a friend swears by, is too use 'beer traps' so drowning them, then...brace yourselves!...put them in a blender(especially for this purpose!!) and spread the contents where you don't want them to munch. She absolutly swears by it!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-21T07:08:29Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>how do you protect seedlings?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>maria pureza</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/70fb2375-e2bd-4890-b2d8-c163959ed330</id>
    <updated>2008-06-07T20:41:22Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-05T16:11:19Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;does anybody have any tips on how to protect seedlings as they come up?  so far the bugs ( earwigs and possibly sowbugs, though i thought they were harmless but we sure have a lot!)  have eaten all the cukes, all the squash, all  the sunflowers, all the runner beans, and all the zinnias.  pretty much anything that's direct seeded.  the plants will sprout, live for a day or two, and then be eaten to nothing.  it is SO frustrating as you can imagine!  we have done row covers but they haven't done any good since the critters are in the soil, not coming from above.  we put the chicken tractor on the beds prior to planting but that didn't help either. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;please please please help!!!!!!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>maria pureza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-05T16:11:19Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Food Not Lawns SF</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Laurie</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/5f305274-7a2b-433b-bb50-eafe5f9fd735</id>
    <updated>2008-06-06T16:04:45Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-29T16:28:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I just found out about this event and would like to share it here.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;FOOD NOT LAWNS!
&lt;br/&gt;How to Turn Your Yard into a Garden And Your Neighborhood into a
&lt;br/&gt;Community
&lt;br/&gt;Date: Sunday, June 1st | 10AM – 3:30PM
&lt;br/&gt;Location: Garden for the Environment, 7th Ave at Lawton Street, San
&lt;br/&gt;Francisco. Cost: $15 - $30 Sliding Scale
&lt;br/&gt;Join Heather Flores, author of Food Not Lawns, at Garden for the
&lt;br/&gt;Environment for an all-day workshop of permaculture instruction and
&lt;br/&gt;community food gardening conversation. The morning focuses on the
&lt;br/&gt;basics of permaculture ethics and principles, as applied in the
&lt;br/&gt;small-scale urban garden. The afternoon focuses on multilevel garden
&lt;br/&gt;design, and closing resource loops in areas such as water, waste,
&lt;br/&gt;labor, and community interaction. Using classic permaculture
&lt;br/&gt;principles such as relative location, stacking functions, and
&lt;br/&gt;recycling, we will identify and address recurrent design challenges.
&lt;br/&gt;Please bring a vegetarian dish to share for a potluck lunch at noon.
&lt;br/&gt;The book Food Not Lawns will be available for purchase at the
&lt;br/&gt;workshop.
&lt;br/&gt;To Pre-Register, please call (415) 731-5627 or email
&lt;br/&gt;info@gardenfortheen vironment. org.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-29T16:28:59Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Young veggie ID help pleease!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Marial</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/802e94cb-2a06-414c-9253-e00075fc5456</id>
    <updated>2008-06-04T13:28:53Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-04T05:16:16Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I have lots of volunteers this year, which is great, but I'm moving in august (and have to dismantle my garden and reseed the lawn in its place) so I have to hoist and pot up the pumpkins, gourds and zucchini now and plant them in the new location (first planter box should be complete and filled this weekend). Among the mystery plants are summer squash and cucumbers also. How the heck do I tell what is what? At this point the leaves all look the same, and a google search only brought up pictures of large, fully mature leaves which does not help. Is there a way to ID them at this point, or should I just transplant all of them and hope for the best?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-04T05:16:16Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Soil question...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>hexkitten</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/eee89651-61b9-41db-b507-617fd096014d</id>
    <updated>2008-06-03T03:54:03Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-02T16:51:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I feel like this is a ridiculous question, but what does alcohol do to soil in terms of composting or viability?  I have lots of bottles of old tinctures that I made in an herbal course about 5 years ago, and I'm pretty sure they're never going to get used.  But it feels kinda sacreligious to pour them down the sink.  So will alcohol just evaporate and leave the plant materials in the soil?  Or will the soil chemistry be ruined or burned?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I've never learned about scientific soil composition or chemistry, I've always just intuited it.  So now that my gardening ignorance is exposed, does anyone have any suggestions?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-02T16:51:22Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Mark Bittman</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/805b18da-0e22-431f-8650-39760847978c" />
    <author>
      <name>David</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/805b18da-0e22-431f-8650-39760847978c</id>
    <updated>2008-06-02T13:05:14Z</updated>
    <published>2008-06-02T13:05:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/263
&lt;br/&gt;TED | Talks | Mark Bittman: What's wrong with what we eat (video)&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-06-02T13:05:14Z</dc:date>
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    <title>quinoa??</title>
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    <author>
      <name>manuel</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/aef7211c-6aa0-46c4-b535-6f28a9504ad0</id>
    <updated>2008-05-31T22:01:15Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-14T16:42:37Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;hi!!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;is it possible to grow  quinoa (organic)we buy from the store??
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;i've noticed it sprouts but i'd like to know if it'll grow more than that.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;something that i know is that  it grows well on the gulf islands (canadian west coast)
&lt;br/&gt;where i live.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;merci&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-14T16:42:37Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Permaculture video</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/dbbec9ce-07ec-4d34-a788-88868769ce89" />
    <author>
      <name>Tinkles</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/dbbec9ce-07ec-4d34-a788-88868769ce89</id>
    <updated>2008-05-29T05:24:30Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-29T05:24:30Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=495ntje2mt
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;:)&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-29T05:24:30Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>taken by storm...</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/87ee611e-0780-4fa6-be82-1d61d76372d6" />
    <author>
      <name>Lynn</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/87ee611e-0780-4fa6-be82-1d61d76372d6</id>
    <updated>2008-05-29T00:25:48Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-29T00:25:48Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;help!  my recently planted soil beds (all still at seed) were slightly eroded and seriously packed-down by a heavy rain - I think my seeds are okay, but my soil is all compacted - what do I do?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-29T00:25:48Z</dc:date>
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    <title>San Diego Garden Co-op</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/19523aab-3bbb-4dfe-ae72-f7b7e793ba8a" />
    <author>
      <name>bad-dawg</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/19523aab-3bbb-4dfe-ae72-f7b7e793ba8a</id>
    <updated>2008-05-28T17:01:31Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-28T17:01:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;We are starting a garden Co-op in San Diego County. At this time we are all planting in our back yards but are going to help each other out, help others get started, and share the proceeds of our labor. If you are in San  Diego County, please join us!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/sdgardencoop&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-28T17:01:31Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Peppers</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/baaced09-14cd-4889-b926-3a43a48bed71" />
    <author>
      <name>Mandy</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/baaced09-14cd-4889-b926-3a43a48bed71</id>
    <updated>2008-05-25T10:02:14Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-25T07:24:03Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I have grown peppers (I notice you call them bell peppers) in the uk under glass, although they are edible, the skins are a little tough.Any suggestions? perhaps i'm watering too little?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-25T07:24:03Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>canning strawberries</title>
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    <author>
      <name>muse</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/99a496d2-b72b-42fd-9411-e708a5394865</id>
    <updated>2008-05-25T02:35:41Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-22T06:29:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;i've been canning for some time now. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I have a whole flat of organic strawberries 
&lt;br/&gt;and i've always done the boiling water method. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;what about freezer jam? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;is the taste/texture really any different? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;i just love seeing jars of beautiful summer 
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-22T06:29:14Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Not really a growing querie......</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/2119456e-5cc8-490f-a6e0-de9c3055dc4f" />
    <author>
      <name>Mandy</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/2119456e-5cc8-490f-a6e0-de9c3055dc4f</id>
    <updated>2008-05-24T18:53:19Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-22T20:02:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;But how easy would it be to convert my battery strimmer to a solar one? I only know it can be done, but need some technical advice...please!!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-22T20:02:14Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>new tribe</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/54e69a59-c11e-4dbb-acfe-a6c15c7bf809" />
    <author>
      <name>matt</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/54e69a59-c11e-4dbb-acfe-a6c15c7bf809</id>
    <updated>2008-05-24T18:11:37Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-24T18:11:37Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey everyone.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;i decided to make a new tribe today. maybe it will take off. maybe it won't.
&lt;br/&gt;i am just ready for some more input that is positive. it seems to be getting
&lt;br/&gt;rather scarce lately. this is not just some kind of wah wah feel good tribe.
&lt;br/&gt;it is a feel good tribe, but not in the form of lazy self satisfaction- inaction. no no
&lt;br/&gt;it is more like the kind of tribe for us to share accomplishments and insights
&lt;br/&gt;from around the globe and become EMPOWERED ourselves to either start
&lt;br/&gt;making a difference, or to know that there are many more of us out there.
&lt;br/&gt;it is also a place for networking with like minded people that are into other
&lt;br/&gt;kinds of cool stuff. like the kind of stuff that you hear about and say, "whoa...
&lt;br/&gt;that's cool"
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;share what you like. i would really like to see this work.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;i check tribe a lot during lunch. it would be great to get some inspiration to marinate on while i finish out the day.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;peace
&lt;br/&gt;m
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;tribes.tribe.net/positivehappenings&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-24T18:11:37Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>organic farm apprentice needed in miane</title>
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    <author>
      <name>travis</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/dd692d7b-27c2-4ad0-b583-03bc18503c09</id>
    <updated>2008-05-23T15:10:33Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-23T15:10:33Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;if anyone needs a place to live this summer and learn how to organic farm. im looking for an apprentice that can work 10 hr a week in trade for place to camp and learn to farm..... call me up if interested........... 207 812 0901.. im located on the beautiful blue hill peninsula in maine... the farm has a 300* veiw of the atlantic ocean... peace and love&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-23T15:10:33Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>as i grow my own ...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Mandy</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/e70b5837-9a27-48f6-bdc9-2a767f806c8d</id>
    <updated>2008-05-21T13:53:42Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-20T06:24:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;i would like to know more about organic  vegetable growing, as i am new to this tribe, and have little knowledge on the subject,Any tips would be greatfully received.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-20T06:24:52Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Best time to plant?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Tommaso</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/9b6da273-d9e7-40c9-aa3c-8943bff0d235</id>
    <updated>2008-05-21T02:22:25Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-20T18:01:44Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So whens the best time/day to plant?  early in the day? late afternoon? overcast/sunny? the day before its suppose to rain? the day after rain?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Tommaso</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-20T18:01:44Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Companion planting FOR herbs</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Melissa</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/af88fa85-917d-4d99-a7b3-0bf6a21edf6c</id>
    <updated>2008-05-20T03:33:00Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-13T03:17:03Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hey there! I've read plenty about herbs AS companion plants, i.e. herbs that repel insects that munch on carrots/tomatoes/apples, etc. or that makes the flavor better or the fruit bigger. But I haven't found anything about companion planting designed to enhance, protect, and help herbs as opposed to edibles.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Anyone know anything?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-13T03:17:03Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>cantaloupes and watermelons</title>
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    <author>
      <name>katcjbender</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/a70f39a8-ea19-439e-b120-e5e22e1aef8e</id>
    <updated>2008-05-18T00:32:43Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-10T14:17:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Can you plant these 2 next to one another or do they cross-pollinate?
&lt;br/&gt;If I really shouldn't plant these close, how far apart do they need to be?
&lt;br/&gt;I'm planting close and going vertical with them but I'm wondering if I need to create somewhere else for one to live this summer.
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks~&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-10T14:17:52Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>early tomato flowers</title>
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      <name>maria pureza</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/fc667566-eb5b-425c-aa58-a57caa4ccdd5</id>
    <updated>2008-05-17T22:32:20Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-16T16:35:18Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;first i just have to say that i really appreciate the wisdom and generosity of this tribe.  it seems like every other day i have some simple little question that i really should know, and that i feel silly asking about, and yet i ask, and you all answer, and don't make me feel like an idiot.  so thank you!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;so my question of the day is, how big do tomatoes need to get before you let them flower?  mine are about a foot tall and it seems like i pick the flower buds off every single day.  they're actually twice that tall, i trench planted them, they've been growing since mid-february.  and they really want to bloom!  i've only grown starts from the nursery before, and i remember them being at least 3 feet tall before they even started to think about flowering.  so maybe mine are happier?  or maybe they're more stressed?  they've been in the ground a whole 3 weeks or so.  what would you say is a minimum height?  and if i do let them start fruiting, will they really slow down their vegetative growth, or will they keep growing since it's so early in the season?  &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-16T16:35:18Z</dc:date>
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    <title>companion versus rows - seeding instructions</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Lynn</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/e7444def-edaa-4af3-bbbf-0dfe7c03243a</id>
    <updated>2008-05-16T00:36:48Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-15T01:34:09Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;So my companion plant book has very different instructions for row spacing than my seed packets.  Is this just common old-school rules on the seed packets and companion planting has a different approach?  Any suggestions?  In particular my peas packet says 3 feet between rows, but if I'm companion planting my book says 1-2 feet.  And what if I'm throwing in something like borage for ground cover - can I put that inbetween the pea rows?  ....  I'm not sure I'm very clear with my questions :) but I'd appreciate input.  THanks!  Happy Garden Time!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-15T01:34:09Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Canada's Police State Bill C51 Camouflaged as a Health Bill</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Daniel J</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/358d5a07-aefd-41cf-a540-5a291e2ba6d6</id>
    <updated>2008-05-15T14:27:01Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-13T20:11:27Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Canada's Police State Bill C51 Camouflaged as a Health Bill  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On April 8th 2008 The Health Minister of Canada introduced a totally unnecessary bill, that is quickly being forced through Parliament to attack the Natural health products and services industry on behalf of big Pharma. The public is being deceived and not informed of the police state provisions written into this bill. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;read it here
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.mychurch.org/blog/185640/Canadas-Police-State-Bill-C51-Camouflaged-as-a-Health-Bill&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-13T20:11:27Z</dc:date>
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    <title>planting kitchen potatoes - disease free?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Lynn</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/5b725256-144c-4524-9845-f5749123ffcf</id>
    <updated>2008-05-12T22:48:29Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-09T14:17:42Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My family and I have quite a few potatoes that have sprouted because we forgot about them and didn't get them eaten.  Techinically I can cut seed pieces from them and plant them, rather than throw them out,  but from what I've been reading kitchen potatoes may not be disease free.  Does anyone know more about this or know of ways to (like sulfur) ensure that I can use these disease free?  Or is it, in your experience, not a good idea... or a worry-free good idea?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-09T14:17:42Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>want to distill some mint and lavender?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>SunDancer</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d3aa5684-fd9f-4d25-97f7-fa48cdc7a7f7</id>
    <updated>2008-05-12T17:15:51Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-11T21:24:34Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I've got a huge trashbag of freshly harvested mint. The lavender will be ready in about 3 weeks.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Is anyone interested in making essential oils? Has a distiller and wants to split the harvest?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The best massage oil I've ever had was from these ingredients and homemade.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I think it would be fun to do this not only for the oil, but just learning to do something new and interesting.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I can do this during the week or a weekend before Memorial day. I have a super sweet place to do this with lots of wildlife around.... Just like going camping.... except I live here!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;PM me for details.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-11T21:24:34Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Purple coneflower</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/8bf465b5-a39c-4a43-b2f5-a6a086982888" />
    <author>
      <name>amyirish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/8bf465b5-a39c-4a43-b2f5-a6a086982888</id>
    <updated>2008-05-11T04:20:35Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-11T00:29:29Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My neighbor just dropped by with a bucket of purple coneflowers.  Any suggestions on how and where to grow them?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-11T00:29:29Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Has anyone info on copper fungicides?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>matt</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/826eaf02-b5d5-4103-a0fb-b7a66cb73dd1</id>
    <updated>2008-05-11T00:31:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-10T02:38:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I was told it is organic and i have some white mold patches on my greenhouse tomatoes. 
&lt;br/&gt;i sprayed one today and would like to get more information before i spray any more.
&lt;br/&gt;i really do need to act quick though, one can only prune so much before there is nothing left...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;thanks in advance
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&lt;br/&gt;m&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-10T02:38:59Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Tips for germinating and growing hot peppers</title>
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      <name>Sam</name>
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    <updated>2008-05-10T21:59:22Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-08T17:19:19Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;A couple of years ago I start growing my own hot pepper plants after our local source for unusual plants went out of business. With a little investigation a have managed to come up with methods to quickly germinate and grow peppers. Here's what I've found. I hope it will answer some of the questions and solve some of the problems I've been reading from other members.
&lt;br/&gt;Seed starter trays work very well. Use the clear plastic dome until the most of the seeds have come up then remove it. Do not use peat pellets or peat to germinate. Pepper seeds don't like the pH. I use a starter plug called Rapid Rooter. It is made from recycled bark. They look funny but work great. Use distllled water to moisten the seeds until they germinate then it's ok to switch to tap water if you like. At this point you should start adding a fertilizer to the water. Use a seedling heating mat. They aren't too expensive and they help speed up germination. I also use grow lights. To prevent seedlings from being wimpy. Apply a gentle breeze from a fan for about 30 minutes a day. The wiggling stimulates the stems to strengthen. If you don't have a fan you can gently run your hand over the tops of the plants to get the same effect. You just have to do it more often. I've had impressive luck following these tips. The tepin seeds I bought said they can take up to 100 days to germinate. Mine were up in 7 days!
&lt;br/&gt;Good luck pepper lovers.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-08T17:19:19Z</dc:date>
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    <title>i am wondering if plant out date is now.....</title>
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    <author>
      <name>amanda</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/67fc23a3-9a2a-46bb-948e-cc981d2eedfb</id>
    <updated>2008-05-10T03:05:45Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;global warming, what ever...i live in wv....all our  volunteers from the compost: tomatoes and sunflowers, cosmos, calendula have started to grow vigorously we have had a few cool knights, but nothing has stopped the growth....
&lt;br/&gt;i am not going to rush out and plant, but i am wondering of any folk signs or whatever.....i really think i could plant seeds outside
&lt;br/&gt;any thoughts from you all?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-02T21:54:00Z</dc:date>
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    <title>menstrual blood as fertilizer?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>neodolatelna</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/58a9da21-8393-4f89-9278-61cbafb5eaa2</id>
    <updated>2008-05-09T11:45:58Z</updated>
    <published>2004-08-26T18:32:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;can you use menstrual blood as fertilizer? how is it applied (directly or diluted?) and how often should it be given to plants? i've read that plants love it, but is there any sort of evidence backing this up? has anyone grown plants that were given menstrual blood vs. no fertilizer side by side to see which one does better? how potent of a fertilizer is it? what exact nutrients does it give to a plant? there seems to be no information on this sort anywhere online.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2004-08-26T18:32:51Z</dc:date>
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    <title>planting out peppers</title>
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    <author>
      <name>maria pureza</name>
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    <updated>2008-05-08T19:45:44Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;so we have a ton of pepper babies that have outgrown their little 6-pack homes and a new place to live.  i'm wondering which is a better option- to transplant them to bigger pots and keep them in the house for another month or so, or to plant them out into the garden in their permanent bed, which just happens to have a hoop house over it at this time.  we're in the sierra foothills, zone 8, and it's been 85 or so for the last few days, so it feels like time to plant all the summer stuff, but i know it's not.  it's only april and we can and usually will get a late april/early may cold spell.  it might not freeze because out little microclimate is fairly protected but it will probably get cold (i would guess high 30's).  so can peppers deal with that in an unheated hoop house?  or should i just keep 'em inside?  i could really use the extra space...   thanks!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-14T14:49:38Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Herb guilds</title>
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    <author>
      <name>matt</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/2bf82060-2266-4918-8dc4-27bb95ce03db</id>
    <updated>2008-05-08T16:50:54Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-03T18:17:06Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I am planting a lot right now as we are heading into the rainy season. I would like to have 
&lt;br/&gt;some herb guilds but unfortunately this requires cooking knowledge, which i am working
&lt;br/&gt;on expanding. I have an example of what i am talking about that i am planting now.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;THAI GUILD
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Tomato
&lt;br/&gt;Basil
&lt;br/&gt;Chili Peppers 
&lt;br/&gt;Lemon grass
&lt;br/&gt;Garlic
&lt;br/&gt;Ginger
&lt;br/&gt;Chives
&lt;br/&gt;Mung Bean Sprouts
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Does anyone have any other ideas for plant groupings that can all be used for specific dishes?
&lt;br/&gt;Or... any additions to this Thai guild?
&lt;br/&gt;Of course dwarf coconuts but i am working on that.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;thank ya'll
&lt;br/&gt;m&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-05-03T18:17:06Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>first garden in a decade</title>
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    <author>
      <name>philipg</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/4a0642be-4692-4780-bf17-122b27da84eb</id>
    <updated>2008-05-06T16:29:54Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-29T07:53:18Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;For the first time since i was in grad school, i have a garden! A friend in the berkeley hills asked me if i could take over the food part of his garden from what was already growing in the house his family bought as well as plant more food.
&lt;br/&gt;There are already lemon, apple, apricot, pluot and orange trees in decent shape and getting better. Abundant fruit setting on the apples, apricot and pluot. Not great yields from the lemons.
&lt;br/&gt;There were beds of strawberries, artichokes, blackberries, raspberries, and asparagus  in really bad shape but i have weeded, fertilized, added comcpost, mulched, watered them back to good shape and the artichokes are about to start offering some delights to my kitchen.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And into the ground i have been planting:
&lt;br/&gt;daikon
&lt;br/&gt;radish
&lt;br/&gt;turnip
&lt;br/&gt;choy sum
&lt;br/&gt;burdock
&lt;br/&gt;carrot
&lt;br/&gt;4 types of tomatos
&lt;br/&gt;3 types of chilis
&lt;br/&gt;mizuna
&lt;br/&gt;raddichio
&lt;br/&gt;red oak lettuce
&lt;br/&gt;a green leaf lettuce
&lt;br/&gt;peas
&lt;br/&gt;pea pods
&lt;br/&gt;long beans
&lt;br/&gt;3 varieties of cucumbers
&lt;br/&gt;zucchini
&lt;br/&gt;yellow squash
&lt;br/&gt;kabocha
&lt;br/&gt;coriander
&lt;br/&gt;basil
&lt;br/&gt;chrysanthemum
&lt;br/&gt;gold beets
&lt;br/&gt;red beets
&lt;br/&gt;cioga beets
&lt;br/&gt;tomatillo
&lt;br/&gt;blue lake beans
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;and in the green house are coming up
&lt;br/&gt;more chilis, squashes, pumpkins, thai basil, parsley, cilantro, basil, various asian greens and more
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This is fun :)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;phil&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-29T07:53:18Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>PLEASE WATCH = "IN LIES WE TRUST" = IT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/8a974fec-9d38-495c-8ccb-c225950062ed" />
    <author>
      <name>Daniel J</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/8a974fec-9d38-495c-8ccb-c225950062ed</id>
    <updated>2008-05-05T10:04:13Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-05T10:04:13Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;PLEASE WATCH = "IN LIES WE TRUST" = IT MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE
&lt;br/&gt;Join the "TRUTH REVOLUTION"..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.restoretherepublic.com/component/option,com_seyret/task,video\
&lt;br/&gt;directlink/Itemid,40/id,559/
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;TORRENT WITH extras
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.mininova.org/tor/1375455
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;PLEASE READ "A Truth Soldier"
&lt;br/&gt;http://danieltowsey.blogspot.com/2008/02/truth-soldier.html
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Make copies and share them with people you care about, make some and write 
&lt;br/&gt;"PORN" and leave copies in malls and other places...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Only the truely informed will have any chance..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Please join "conspiraciesclub' It's loaded with thousands of Articles,links,Videos, Documents and more.. http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/conspiraciesclub/
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;and for Canadians please go to "canadianconspiraciesclub" to learn about Bill C-51 before it's to late http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/canadianconspiraciesclub/&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-05T10:04:13Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Stop the Spray</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/a20732e7-c9c1-4c55-b121-8c302fd12b03" />
    <author>
      <name>cypod</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/a20732e7-c9c1-4c55-b121-8c302fd12b03</id>
    <updated>2008-05-03T18:21:13Z</updated>
    <published>2008-05-02T22:22:30Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Tens of thousands California residents are being sprayed under the cover of night with pesticides containing partly unknown chemicals. These sprayings, conducted inadequate health studies, are done not to protect residents from a clear and present public health danger, but rather to protect special interests worried about eradicating the Light Brown Apple Moth (LBAM).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The LBAM spray operations in Central Coast counties of Monterey and Santa Cruz resulted in over 600 reports of health illnesses. State authorities have not only failed to respond, but now plan new LBAM aerial spray operations in the San Francisco Bay Area.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Californians have a right to refuse aerial fumigation without proof of a clear and present public health danger. Any mandatory aerial spraying of chemicals must be shown to address a clear and present public health danger, and must be voted on and supported by the people in the area to be sprayed.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;More Information:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The LBAM aerial spraying has been ordered by the Secretary of Agriculture, and due to a declared "state of emergency," representatives and residents are currently legally powerless to stop this. The legitimacy of this so-called "emergency" is uncertain; the LBAM poses no risk to human health but rather a contested threat to certain crops and plants.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Yet, government agencies approving the LBAM plan admit that the pesticide could pose a threat to some people, stating "not all health effects can be predicted and because the general population includes susceptible (people), such as children, the elderly and those with chronic diseases, we cannot provide a definitive cause for their symptoms [experienced after the spraying in Santa Cruz and Monterey]."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Read the following letter from Assemblymember John Laird of the 27th district to the Secretary of Agriculture demanding explanation. In his letter on September 24, 2007 you will see a dialog between the Assemblymember and the Secretary on this issue: http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a27/moth.htm
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The bottom line is that the Secretary of Agriculture secured power to conduct LBAM aerial spraying of chemicals which at least in part were of unknown composition over urban areas of California against public outcry and concern.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We need laws that protect us and our environment, not special interests, and to ensure that we are not subjected to chemicals against our individual rights without an immediate health danger, due process, and a public vote.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Additional information is available at http://www.stopthespray.org/&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-05-02T22:22:30Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Insecticidal soap sprays</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/3aa1eeb2-ec23-4d99-8360-1ac0f00121df" />
    <author>
      <name>bad-dawg</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/3aa1eeb2-ec23-4d99-8360-1ac0f00121df</id>
    <updated>2008-05-03T00:47:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-29T19:27:25Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Anybody have a good recipe for insecticidal soap I can spray on my cucs and other plants? I have bought it in the past, but they really want way too much for it at the garden centers around here...&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-29T19:27:25Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>skunks!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>maria pureza</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/9b0cd8a3-c3c1-4e77-bf8d-dd305f0921a4</id>
    <updated>2008-05-01T14:31:13Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-29T16:22:31Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;i cannot believe i used to love skunks!  this morning i found 3 foxgloves and 2 freshly planted tomatoes dug up.  oh the carnage and the sadness.  the intrepid watchdog, after having been sprayed 3 or 4 times, has decided that she will have nothing to do with a skunk (she is smart, i can't blame her!).  so i have ordered the mountain lion noisemaker that supposedly will keep them away, hopefully that will work.  for the week or so until it gets here, does anyone have any suggestions for how to keep those cute and furry and oh so destructive skunks away??!!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>maria pureza</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-04-29T16:22:31Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>tips for moss removal from the roof?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/7c0a07fe-f64b-4ebb-9429-7f40cd6f8c15" />
    <author>
      <name>Jean</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/7c0a07fe-f64b-4ebb-9429-7f40cd6f8c15</id>
    <updated>2008-04-29T19:38:42Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-23T00:59:52Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hi!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I've heard of some sort of copper strip technique, but I'm not sure of the effectiveness.  Can anyone provide any info or alternative suggestions?  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I'm afraid if I get up there with the powerwasher I will destroy my shingles!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks, 
&lt;br/&gt;Jean&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-04-23T00:59:52Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Fennel woes</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d998d792-600c-445b-baba-7acb5b0e9e94" />
    <author>
      <name>Melissa</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d998d792-600c-445b-baba-7acb5b0e9e94</id>
    <updated>2008-04-29T17:19:30Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-25T23:32:38Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Every year I try to grow fennel, and every year I get weak, spindly plants that just won't grow... or if they do, they are incredibly tough when I try to eat them.  This is maddening, because fennel grows so freely along the highways around town!  Why won't it grow in my garden?!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I have tried growing from seed and starts.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;I have the same problem with dill, to some extent.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-25T23:32:38Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Tien Tsin chili seeds?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/bd2eb2dd-7620-4855-9a72-4885eb1f3773" />
    <author>
      <name>philipg</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/bd2eb2dd-7620-4855-9a72-4885eb1f3773</id>
    <updated>2008-04-29T07:55:45Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;does anyone have any tien tsin chili seeds they can spare or trade? This is the chili from sichuan province. The seeds from the  chilis i have are now sprouting and i would like to grow this incredibly tasty pepper
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;phil&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-29T07:55:45Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>New Tribe "Scythe Users"</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/21e2c26d-4ea2-444a-8fe4-335a48c057b3" />
    <author>
      <name>Steve e</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/21e2c26d-4ea2-444a-8fe4-335a48c057b3</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T21:41:57Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-19T04:47:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I've started a tribe for people who currently use or are interested in using, scythes to mow plants.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>Steve e</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-04-19T04:47:51Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>mulch for excess water?</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/932a0b08-d937-4b20-b287-d4a0bfd8834e" />
    <author>
      <name>Lynn</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/932a0b08-d937-4b20-b287-d4a0bfd8834e</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T13:49:24Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-24T23:22:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;My garden plot has a tendency to hold water, simply because my yard is low lying.  In case I can't afford the soil for raised beds, does mulching help with this at all?  Or hinder?
&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-24T23:22:59Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Growing Potted Tomatoes...</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/9772ef79-53ba-4a7f-9ecf-57494cc6667c" />
    <author>
      <name>enjoyholistichealing</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/9772ef79-53ba-4a7f-9ecf-57494cc6667c</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T13:47:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-23T02:36:53Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello...I'm looking to pot some tomatoes.  How do I do this?  when is a good time to start?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-23T02:36:53Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>I spy growing in my garden.....................</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/83920e95-8c5b-41f2-9e40-e891ffd18be4" />
    <author>
      <name>SISU</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/83920e95-8c5b-41f2-9e40-e891ffd18be4</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T13:17:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-07T01:22:13Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Spinach
&lt;br/&gt;Broccoli&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-07T01:22:13Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Pineapples, pineapples, pineapples!</title>
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    <author>
      <name>yellow</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d9eeccb7-3185-49f1-863b-0fe3a116eb8f</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T01:59:55Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-24T02:30:13Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hi everyone!
&lt;br/&gt;I want to begin planting pineapple trees in my yard in st. pete, florida.
&lt;br/&gt;I am in a perfect location for them and I have access to tons of pineapple tops on a regular basis, all organic.
&lt;br/&gt;I plan to start them in pots then move to the yard.
&lt;br/&gt;I want to know how long to let them dry and heel over before potting them. Some people say a day some say at least 7 days.
&lt;br/&gt;I have one in a pot and it does not look very good, its been about a week.
&lt;br/&gt;I have 3 more tops, with about 1 inch of core and the rest of the fruit trimmed away, I plucked the bottom leaves and now I've been letting them rest, out of the sun in my kitchen for about a day.
&lt;br/&gt;I don't want them to over dry, and I don't want them too moist, (one person told me to get them into water right away, i have not done this)
&lt;br/&gt;I've been reading and I just wondered if anyone wanted to toss me some tips or advice.
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks much.
&lt;br/&gt;peace&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-24T02:30:13Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>How hot is too hot?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>amyirish</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/47ebc32c-6beb-4f2c-bd93-34642d620d7e</id>
    <updated>2008-04-28T01:45:02Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-28T00:56:10Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;While turning my compost, I noticed steam coming off of it.  Just how hot should my pile get and how hot is too hot?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-28T00:56:10Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Poison Oak in spring</title>
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    <author>
      <name>janeO</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/ab23897f-d318-4825-aa8e-75c214f7d368</id>
    <updated>2008-04-26T18:30:14Z</updated>
    <published>2006-03-16T18:23:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;What does poison oak look like when it sprouts in spring?
&lt;br/&gt;Anyone have instructive photo's?
&lt;br/&gt;I would like to know how to eradicate it when it reemerges so I don't 
&lt;br/&gt;risk suffering like I did from repeted outbreaks last season, my first w poison oak, 
&lt;br/&gt;which became systemic.  I live in a rainy Marin county area.&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:creator>janeO</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-03-16T18:23:55Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>volunteer tomatoes</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/f7dfbabc-9f13-4b06-ab46-3efc637f5741" />
    <author>
      <name>amyirish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/f7dfbabc-9f13-4b06-ab46-3efc637f5741</id>
    <updated>2008-04-25T23:10:20Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-25T13:38:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;While weeding the broccolis, I noticed some seedlings that appear to be tomatoes.  Last year I grew Roma tomatoes in that spot and I think these are volunteers.   I rotate what I grow so I've never grown the same thing in the same spot two years in a row.  Will letting these volunteers grow in the same spot make them more suceptible to disease?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-25T13:38:51Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>favorite seed companies?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>MsPurity</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/adb3a6ba-ae60-41c7-8d78-1bdda8f2dfa8</id>
    <updated>2008-04-25T04:44:45Z</updated>
    <published>2006-12-30T23:31:46Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;What's your favorite seed company? I personally like companies that sell heirloom seeds. My personal fave is Seed Savers Exchange, but I'm interested if there are any similar companies out there. I have a Territorial Seed Company Catalog and a Burpee catalog, but they don't have the rare/hard to find seeds that SSE has. &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2006-12-30T23:31:46Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>My rocotos are growing...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>ttuerff</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/d8e72912-c9ea-4d18-8408-ea2ffec03d4e</id>
    <updated>2008-04-24T22:39:42Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-24T22:39:42Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;...and while they're not big enough for fruit yet, these are some of the most interesting leaves I've ever seen. They almost look like miniature grape leaves. I hope these things take because it's gonna be a beautiful plant when it gets big...
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&lt;br/&gt;TT&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-24T22:39:42Z</dc:date>
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    <title>I want your advise/suggestions  on crabgrass removal...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Aura</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/4fa87a5f-8d88-4954-b1b8-32c02dfcbe3e</id>
    <updated>2008-04-22T19:32:07Z</updated>
    <published>2008-03-24T19:35:55Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;We are overwhelmed but the crabgrass in our yard, and my husband's attitude is to just embrace the stuff, but I think its awful, and would love to know if there is a solution that doesn't involve poison...we have lived here already three years, and have planted all over the whole yard already, so that takes away options like landscape plastic, and removing four feet of soil...altough neither one of those options was ever an option for us...I just about drove myself crazy yesterday trying to pull the stuff out by the roots to give some established plants some breathing space...I worked on it for hours, and made hardly a dent in the enormity of this situation(and, according to my husband, it will all be back with a vengence in a month, so why bother)...any advice would be well appreciated...thanks so much, Aura&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-03-24T19:35:55Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>mystery wood chips for a weed free garden path</title>
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    <author>
      <name>janeO</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/60baa6a5-0c1e-4943-950b-eb5b0adaacb3</id>
    <updated>2008-04-21T07:57:17Z</updated>
    <published>2008-03-22T02:18:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;http://www.paganpath.com/witch/woodmulch.shtml
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&lt;br/&gt;A neighbor gave me a chipped tree last year and I have used it 
&lt;br/&gt;to smother a weedy problem area in my garden and it is really
&lt;br/&gt;a nice refuge now. I put down multiple layers of newspaper and then
&lt;br/&gt;covered it with @5" of the chips.  Now a year later, some interesting 
&lt;br/&gt;mushrooms have been sprouting out of the chips.  I don't plan on 
&lt;br/&gt;growing much in this area, it defines the area and is soft underfoot.
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&lt;br/&gt;Any experience with mushrooms out of wood chip mulch? &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-03-22T02:18:59Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>potted tomatoes</title>
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      <name>Nadia</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/07576cd8-ad92-4820-94be-627ba1c6d9a6</id>
    <updated>2008-04-21T01:56:21Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;how large of pots do potted tomatoes need? i have these plastic salad containers i've been using for seedlings; about  a foot and half long by six-eight inches height and width. is that big enough for them or will they demand more? i can put compost in their buckets, so that'd be okay... i'm more worried about the amount of root mass they demand.
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&lt;br/&gt;also, i could put them in the ground, but i'd really rather save most of that for the corn, plus i'm not sure they'd get enough sunlight. probably get watered more often if they're in pots (where people see them).
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&lt;br/&gt;Would the plastic cook the roots? Should I put the buckets in something, like cardboard containers so the sun isn't touching the plastic except for at the surface?
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&lt;br/&gt;sorry if this has been covered before; i dont have the itme right now to shuffle through all of 800 entries here...
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&lt;br/&gt;thanks,
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&lt;br/&gt;nadia&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-13T17:30:44Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>bunny</title>
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    <author>
      <name>amyirish</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/aaf5c9a8-1ee3-48ef-a41e-3723ca06b4ea</id>
    <updated>2008-04-20T17:38:54Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-20T17:38:54Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;There's a baby bunny living in my woodpile.  He's so cute, I can't bear to harm him.  Will chicken wire keep him out of my garden?&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-20T17:38:54Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Plastic Bottle Ban</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Pritam</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/b1c5ccc5-77e4-4881-a63c-088f48f56f12</id>
    <updated>2008-04-20T05:01:04Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-19T14:37:00Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Seen this and thought i would post it since plastic finds it ways in alot of areas in growing .
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&lt;br/&gt;Plastic Bottle Ban?
&lt;br/&gt;Manufacturers, retailers, and regulatory agencies consider eliminating a potentially harmful chemical from plastic sport and baby bottles.
&lt;br/&gt;By Lisa Farino 
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&lt;br/&gt;Responding to growing consumer concern, sports-bottle maker Nalgene announced today that it will be phasing out the use of the chemical bisphenol-A (BPA) in its plastic containers over the coming months.
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&lt;br/&gt;BPA is a common building block of hard polycarbonate plastics (such as sports bottles, baby bottles, and eye glasses) and is also found in the resin lining of metal food and beverage cans. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Because BPA mimics estrogen, there has been increasing concern that exposure, especially by fetuses, newborns, and infants, may cause long-term health impacts such as early puberty in girls, reproductive problems, and cancers later in life.
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&lt;br/&gt;Nalgene currently makes about a half-dozen different sports bottles, including ones made from stainless steel and also BPA-free plastics. Only one of its six bottle types includes BPA. Customers who wish to buy BPA-free sports bottles before Nalgene’s phase-out is complete can visit the Nalgene Choice website to learn more about Nalgene’s current BPA-free options. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Canada Plans BPA Ban
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&lt;br/&gt;Across the border, retailers throughout Canada have been releasing plans to remove BPA-containing sports and baby bottles from their shelves. On Wednesday, Wal-Mart Canada announced that it would immediately stop selling baby bottles, sippy cups, pacifiers, food containers, and water bottles that contain BPA.
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&lt;br/&gt;Many of these retail changes followed an anonymous media leak earlier this week that Health Canada would declare BPA to be toxic. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The official announcement came today as Canada’s Minister of Health, Tony Clement, declared that the Canadian government is taking action to reduce BPA exposure, especially in newborns and infants. 
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&lt;br/&gt;“We have immediately taken action on bisphenol-A (BPA) because we believe it is our responsibility to ensure families, Canadians and our environment are not exposed to a potentially harmful chemical,” said Clement.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Government of Canada is proposing a ban on polycarbonate baby bottles and strict limits on BPA in infant formula cans. The government is also seeking to work with industry to develop alternative food packaging. A 60-day public comment period on the proposal will begin tomorrow.
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&lt;br/&gt;Will the US Follow Suit?
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&lt;br/&gt;On Tuesday, the National Institute of Health’s National Toxicology Program (NTP) released its draft brief on BPA, which found that current levels of exposure to the chemical did pose “some concern” for fetuses, infants, and children. The main concerns were that exposures in these groups could potentially cause neural and behavioral problems, impact the prostate and mammary glands, and contribute to earlier onset of puberty in girls.
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&lt;br/&gt;There are no immediate plans in the U.S. to regulate BPA in food and beverage containers.
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&lt;br/&gt;The report wasn’t intended to make recommendations, says John Bucher, Associate Director of the National Toxicology Program. Rather, the goal was to pull together the literature on the subject, conduct a thorough scientific analysis, and make that information available to regulatory agencies.
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&lt;br/&gt;“All we can do is point out where the exposures are coming from,” said Bucher. The two biggest culprits he identified were polycarbonate baby bottles and the linings of infant formula cans.
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&lt;br/&gt;On Wednesday, The Washington Post reported that congressional Democrats were pushing for the FDA to regulate the presence of BPA in food containers and beverage bottles.
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&lt;br/&gt;Although no regulatory agencies are required to take the report’s findings into account, Bucher says that some agencies—such as the FDA, the EPA, and the Consumer Product Safety Commission—could choose to use the NTP’s findings on BPA. Most likely, these agencies will, at the very least, wait until the draft report has been through a peer review process, which is scheduled for June 11, 2008.
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&lt;br/&gt;Meanwhile, the NTP is accepting public comments about the BPA report.
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&lt;br/&gt;What Should I Do?
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&lt;br/&gt;While the NTP does not make specific recommendations about how other agencies should regulate BPA, they did offer the public some tips for reducing personal exposure if they were concerned. These included:
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&lt;br/&gt;Don’t microwave polycarbonate plastic food containers. Polycarbonate is strong and durable, but over time it may break down from over use at high temperatures.
&lt;br/&gt;Polycarbonate containers that contain BPA usually have a #7 on the bottom.
&lt;br/&gt;Reduce your use of canned foods.
&lt;br/&gt;When possible, opt for glass, porcelain, or stainless steel containers, particularly for hot food or liquids.
&lt;br/&gt;Use baby bottles that are BPA free.
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&lt;br/&gt;                                                                           In Love and Light
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&lt;br/&gt;                                                                                    Pritam&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-19T14:37:00Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>New Evidence Confirms the Nutritional Superiority of Plant-Based Organic Foods</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/7730c1ae-7ffd-48f1-b10f-0748bcbc7802" />
    <author>
      <name>Phoenix_Fire_Nectar</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/7730c1ae-7ffd-48f1-b10f-0748bcbc7802</id>
    <updated>2008-04-18T16:59:16Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-18T02:30:44Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Organic veggies have more nutrients
&lt;br/&gt;from the Union of Concerned Scientists Food &amp;amp; Environment newsletter
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_environment/feed/feed-april-2008.html#4 
&lt;br/&gt;A review of nearly 100 scientific studies has concluded that, on average, organic fruits and vegetables have more vitamins, minerals, and beneficial antioxidants than their conventionally grown counterparts. In the new report, scientists from The Organic Center (a nonprofit that promotes organic farming), examined carefully matched measurements of selected nutrients in specific organic and conventionally grown foods. The scientists found that the organic produce had higher levels of tested nutrients in 61 percent of the cases. Furthermore, the organic foods tended to have higher levels of antioxidants and polyphenols, nutrients that are often in short supply in U.S. diets. By contrast, conventional produce had higher levels of potassium, phosphorus, and total protein, which most people already have in their diets in sufficient amounts. The Organic Center will update its findings online as new studies comparing organic and conventional foods are published.
&lt;br/&gt;Read the report:
&lt;br/&gt;"New Evidence Confirms the Nutritional Superiority of Plant-Based Organic Foods,"
&lt;br/&gt;State of Science Review, March 2008
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.organic-center.org/science.nutri.php?action=view&amp;amp;report_id=126 
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    <dc:date>2008-04-18T02:30:44Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Harlequin beetles</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Cabrita</name>
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    <updated>2008-04-17T19:17:32Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;I got them, they are sucking the life out of my turnip greens, and attacking my parsley.  I better do something before they get to my other brassica beds.  
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&lt;br/&gt;I looked in the internet a bit (google university you know...) and saw a couple of statements:
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&lt;br/&gt;"Rotenone Pyrethrins  It is a totally organic pesticide that works wonders on almost all garden pests".  Is this true?  no pesticide residue on my brassicas?  any of you have used this?  
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&lt;br/&gt;Also, other advice I saw is to use insecticidal soap, but that does not sound organic.  Insecticide residue on my leaves?  no thanks.
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&lt;br/&gt;What I will do, unless I find out it would be detrimental; is to spray the concoction I made:  deadly pepper paste (blend of tepin, chiltepin, thai peppers and habaneros - it did not go bad in 1 1/2 years left outside because nothing can live in it), baby shampoo and white vinegar.  Dilute with a lot of water.  I sprayed aphids with this, is did not phase the kale but got rid of the aphids, it shocked the baby beets a little but got rid of the aphids on them, and the baby beets recovered.  I know it is a bit hard on the plants but i will dilute.  Of course I know it works for aphids, but will it work for Harlequin beetles?  
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&lt;br/&gt;Any of you have experience with Harlequins?  any advice?  much appreciated!&lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-17T19:17:32Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Improper "Big Pharma" Influence in Medicine is VERIFIED!</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/08fe459b-f95e-464b-b879-9d65295a25ad" />
    <author>
      <name>elvenpath</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/08fe459b-f95e-464b-b879-9d65295a25ad</id>
    <updated>2008-04-17T17:49:51Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-17T17:49:51Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Improper "Big Pharma" Influence in Medicine is VERIFIED!
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&lt;br/&gt;This is a BIG step in the right direction for health care in the USA! It has been no secret, but no one was talking about it since the monetary benefits that many doctors are receiving from these companies made this unlikely. I mean - if you were the type to only care about money (which is why many become doctors in the first place), wouldn't you want a free trip to Cancun by putting other people on basically unproven and even harmful chemical substances?
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&lt;br/&gt;Catherine D. De Angelis, MD, MPH and Phil B. Fontanarosa, MD, MBA have submitted this timely (and likely unwelcome) article into the April 16, 2008 edition of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), entitled "Impugning the Integrity of Medical Science - the Adverse Effects of Industry Influence."
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&lt;br/&gt;What is even more awesome is that this was broadcast on the same day on the morning edition of Talk Radio's "Paul Harvey" show, so this information has come to the attention of many Americans today!
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&lt;br/&gt;I am happy to see that some doctors do in fact have some integrity. This may also be an opening for safer alternative methods to be approved by the AMA for doctors to use and not feel like they will have their medical licensing taken away if they recommend a proven herbal remedy (as an example) instead of the new designer drugs of the day. I hope this allows them the courage to step forward now that the door has been opened!
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&lt;br/&gt;We can help by showing this to our medical providers (if you have those) this article, and telling them about this, they can maybe take additional steps as doctors to become more able to practice alternative and natural techniques without risking their careers. Also, tell your friends in any way you can, so that they can demand alternative therapies be implemented or they will go elsewhere now that this article ought to free up other practitioners to use these methods. This also provides some validation for Alternative practitioners who have known about these dangers all along. Health care freedom (and responsibility) is up to all of us - please spread the message!
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&lt;br/&gt;http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/299/15/1833 (download in case they remove!)
&lt;br/&gt;http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/282/17/1609&lt;/div&gt;
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  <entry>
    <title>compost tea &amp;amp; seedlings</title>
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    <author>
      <name>prairie sage</name>
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    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/e665aabf-842c-49e1-825a-1148058fbda2</id>
    <updated>2008-04-16T02:57:23Z</updated>
    <published>2008-04-12T13:23:41Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;my seedlings started looking weak, so I made some compost tea &amp;amp; watered them, they look much better. however now I wonder if the compost tea can spread bacteria or fungus or something? how long do you let yours steep, should I make it milder for the babies? have you ever had problems from using it on seedlings? I always seem to kill my baby vegetable plants somehow &amp;amp; they are almost ready to harden off, i'm almost there.... &lt;/div&gt;
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    <dc:date>2008-04-12T13:23:41Z</dc:date>
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    <title>read this</title>
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    <author>
      <name>amanda</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://greenthumbs.tribe.net/thread/156f1b08-a935-4082-a76f-08a3d0dd40c1</id>
    <updated>2008-04-13T21:15:17Z</updated>
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    <summary type="html">&lt;div&gt;Seeds of Destruction:
&lt;br/&gt;The Geopolitics of GM Food 
&lt;br/&gt;WILLIAM ENGDAHL / Current Concerns (Zurich) n.5, 6mar2005
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&lt;br/&gt;In June 2003, President George W. Bush made the issue of lifting an 8-year European Union ban on genetically modified (GM) plants a matter of US national strategic priority. This came only days after the US occupation of Baghdad. The timing was not accidental. Since that time, EU resistance to GM plants has crumbled, as has that of Brazil, and other key agriculture producing nations. One year before, the future of GM crops was in doubt.
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&lt;br/&gt;Now, some months and enormous pressure later, the strategists of GM food hegemony are on the verge of a control over the global human and animal food chain never held by any single nation or power.
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&lt;br/&gt;The present debate over the nature of biotechnology and genetic modification of basic food such as maize or soybeans, misses the most essential point. The conversion of world agriculture by a small elite of biotech companies, most US-based, has little to do with corporate greed. It has very much to do with geopolitics and plans of some people to control world population growth over the coming decades.
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&lt;br/&gt;The nature of American power projection in the world today rests on the development of key strategic advantages which no other combination of nations can challenge, what the Pentagon planners term, "full spectrum dominance." This includes global military dominance. It includes dominance of the world's limited, and rapidly depleting petroleum supplies. It includes control of the world's reserve currency, the dollar. And today it most definitely includes future control of world agriculture through control of GM patents and GM crops.
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&lt;br/&gt;Before the end of the decade, if present trends continue, US global dominance will be based on control of the food supply of most of this planet, far more than military or even energy control. The geopolitical dimension of this prospect bears careful examination.
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&lt;br/&gt;A Rockefeller Trojan horse 
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&lt;br/&gt;The agency at the center of the GM controversy is the Rockefeller Foundation in New York. Over the past decade, this influential private foundation has spent more than $100 million in sponsoring research and development of GM crops to be deployed in world food production. They have specifically targeted key developing nations in their effort.
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&lt;br/&gt;Their public statements suggest noble motives: "The Rockefeller Foundation is a global foundation with a mandate and a commitment to enrich and sustain the lives of the poor and excluded throughout the world," said foundation president, Gordon Conway, in a 1999 speech to the Monsanto Company, the world's largest producer of GM seeds and pesticides. Conway cites as justification for the GM revolution in agriculture the projections of an added 2 billion people in the world by 2020, amid a decline in existing agriculture yields, and increased degradation of soils and ecology. All indications suggest this is not the real reason GM plants are being promoted with a fervor.
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&lt;br/&gt;Over the past 18 years, the Rockefeller Foundation has played a decisive role worldwide in spreading the acceptance of radical practices of genetic modification to countries and laboratories where a direct US Government research program would be greeted with greatest suspicion. The Rockefeller Foundation is, in effect, the Trojan Horse of GM proliferation.
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&lt;br/&gt;It has gained entry in key countries in part by selecting key scientists from select developing countries to be educated and trained in the US or other industrial countries under foundation programs and auspices. It has done this by funding GM research and by using its influence in government and other agencies and NGO's. To date more than 400 leading scientists from the Philippines to Thailand to Kenya to China have been trained and cultivated by the foundation.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Rockefeller Foundation has a murky past, since its creation in 1914 out of the Rockefeller family Standard Oil Trust fortune. Well before 1945, the foundation had been a leading funder of eugenics research, work made infamous by the Nazi race purity experiments. This included Rockefeller support to the American Eugenics Society and the Population Council. As the race breeding policies of the German Third Reich came to light after the war, Rockefeller strategists shifted profile to champion the causes of environment, resource scarcity and over-population. The policy remained one of global population reduction. (1).
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&lt;br/&gt;Kissinger and NSSM 200 
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&lt;br/&gt;Since more than a quarter century, Rockefeller Foundation energy has been focused on biotechnology and genetic engineering research and promotion. This comes after decades of involvement in various population control schemes for the developing world. There is no contradiction.
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&lt;br/&gt;In 1972 President Nixon named foundation board member, John D. Rockefeller III, to chair a Presidential Commission on "Population and the American Future." The same Rockefeller created the Population Council in 1952, and openly called for "zero population growth."
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&lt;br/&gt;Rockefeller's Commission on Population and the American Future laid the foundation for Henry Kissinger's National Security memorandum, NSSM 200, of April 1974, which cited population growth in strategic, raw materials rich developing countries as a US national security concern of the highest priority.
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&lt;br/&gt;During the 1970's, when Kissinger was National Security Council director as well as Secretary of State, food and oil emerged as strategic US national security commodities. Kissinger initiated the controversial "oil-for-food" strategy in which a food-deficient USSR imported vast sums of US grain and paid it with large export of Soviet oil for dollars. US domestic oil production, outside Alaska, had peaked in 1970 and began a steady decline. The US was becoming increasingly an oil import nation. National security became tied to security of cheap imported oil, and food was a weapon in the US security arsenal from that time on. Kissinger's Cabinet colleague, Agriculture Secretary, Earl Butz, reflected the Kissinger policy when he stated, "Hungry men listen only to those who have a piece of bread. Food is a tool. It is a weapon in the US negotiating kit." Kissinger was then chief negotiator.
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&lt;br/&gt;In 1974, Kissinger submitted the NSSM 200 memorandum to President Nixon, naming population growth in key raw-materials rich developing countries as, a US "national security threat." Since that time, control of economic growth rates and population growth in key developing countries has been US national security priority.
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&lt;br/&gt;Kissinger owed his political career since the late 1950's to his stint as a researcher for the Rockefeller family, and owed his rise to power to their backing. The Rockefeller family had been at the center of US oil and raw materials geopolitics since early in the 1900's, when the Standard Oil Trust was built. Kissinger was well aware of the importance of food and energy to US national interests.
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&lt;br/&gt;With Kissinger's NSSM 200, Washington official policy was to impose restrictions on fast-growing developing countries, policies which would significantly cut population growth. In NSSM 200, Kissinger implied that famine might be an effective way to reduce population: "â€¦large-scale famine of a kind not experienced for several decades - a kind the world thought had been permanently banished," was foreseeable, he wrote. He remarked that the US and other donor countries would not be likely to provide necessary food export to the afflicted regions.
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&lt;br/&gt;In 1975, Kissinger's successor as National Security Advisor, Brent Scowcroft, later a Kissinger business partner, wrote, "United States leadership is essential to combat population growth, to implement the World Population Plan of Action and to advance United States security and overseas interests. The President endorsesâ€¦NSSM 200â€¦," Scowcroft added.
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&lt;br/&gt;Kissinger's NSSM 200 document, classified secret and not made public until 1989, took estimates of world population growth to the end of the century and beyond, and the impact on the need for food and raw materials, notably energy. "Growing populations will have a serious impact on the need for food especially in the poorest, fastest growing LDC's," Kissinger stated. "World needs for food rise by 2.5% or more a year at a time when readily available fertilizer and well-watered land is already largely being utilized. Therefore, additions to food production must come from higher yields," the Government memo declared. It was at this time that the Rockefeller Foundation also began large research in genetic engineering of plants, including rice, ostensibly to raise yields.
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&lt;br/&gt;With NSSM 200, Washington made implementation of population control programs a pre-condition for US financial aid, even famine relief. Washington ensured that birth reduction was adopted as official policy by the IMF, World Bank and the UN. Beginning the mid-1970's all IMF and World Bank aid to developing target countries was tied to their willingness to accept population control policies dictated by Washington.
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&lt;br/&gt;NSSM 200 explicitly listed 13 countries as "key countries" in which the US held a "special political and strategic interest." These were: India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Thailand, Nigeria, Philippines, Turkey, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Brazil and Colombia. Their population growth was deemed especially worrisome to US national interests, according to Kissinger. Notably, every key country has been subjected to major social, economic and military upheaval since 1974. US food aid, even in famine, was withheld from countries refusing to adopt US-mandated birth control or population reduction policies. (2).
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&lt;br/&gt;NSSM 200 continues as unofficial US Government policy to the present day, despite public Bush Administration concessions to Catholic Right to Life groups. In this, the role of the Rockefeller Foundation is central to Washington policy regarding genetic engineering in world agriculture, especially that in key developing nations in Asia, Africa and Latin America.
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&lt;br/&gt;Rockefeller's GM proliferation network 
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&lt;br/&gt;In 1971 the Rockefeller Foundation, together with the Ford Foundation and the World Bank, established the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research (CGIAR), which runs 16 research centers around the world, most in developing countries, spending some $350 million annually. The focus of CGIAR is the spread of GM crops in the developing world.
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&lt;br/&gt;CGIAR today operates under the umbrella of the World Bank, and has drawn 20 developing countries in as sponsors. World Bank aid is administered on the basis of a recipient agreeing to impose population control policies, the present form of NSSM 200, but with Washington officially in the background. Thus, the Rockefeller Foundation, World Bank, Monsanto and other agri-giants and the US Government, all meet under CGIAR auspices.
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&lt;br/&gt;The CGIAR mission is to promote "sustainable agriculture for food security." To do this, CGIAR has used its funds and government influence to take control of one of the world's largest collections of plant genetic resources. CGIAR then makes the materials available to companies like Monsanto and Syngenta, "so that new gene combinations can be used to increase productivity, sustainably," as they state. In turn, CGIAR mobilizes biotechnology proliferation in developing countries. CGIAR trains the most promising national scientists and researchers in biotechnology, insuring that cadre of pro-GM national researchers will promote the spread of GM agriculture and biotechnology back home.
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&lt;br/&gt;In addition to its role in establishing CGIAR, the Rockefeller Foundation has been a major donor to the International Service for the Acquisition of Agri-biotech Applications or ISAAA.
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&lt;br/&gt;Every US President since George H.W. Bush in 1992, has made support of genetically engineered crops a matter of highest national priority. The example of US-AID backing for the Rockefeller Foundation's ISAAA is exemplary.
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&lt;br/&gt;The ISAAA was originally founded with Rockefeller Brothers' Fund money for the sole purpose to "facilitate the delivery of proprietary biotechnologies from the corporate labs of the industrialized world into the food and farming systems of the South."
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&lt;br/&gt;How this works becomes clear when the current financial sponsors of the ISAAA are known. In addition to the Rockefeller Foundation, sponsors include Monsanto (USA), Syngenta (Swiss), Dow AgroSciences (USA), Pioneer Hi-Bred (USA), Cargill (USA), Bayer CropScience (Germany), and a mysterious "Anonymous Donor "(USA), and US-AID of the State Department.
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&lt;br/&gt;The argument of the institutions behind ISAAA is that the developing world is where a rising population makes growing food demand most acute, but where economic resources are least able to meet the needs. Hence, ISAAA enables the introduction of corporate GM technologies and crops from the industrial world into the South, acting as "honest brokers" in their words.
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&lt;br/&gt;As the Kissinger NSSM 200 targeted 13 developing countries in 1974 for population reduction, the ISAAA targets 12 countries for introduction of GM crops. Six of these countries are the same as Kissinger listed in 1974: Mexico, Brazil, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Egypt. In addition, ISAAA lists Malaysia, Vietnam, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Argentina and Costa Rica.
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&lt;br/&gt;By their own admission, the ISAAA launches propaganda offensives to counter hostility to GM crops, and they train science elites from the target countries, often bringing them to USA or other leading GM research centers such as the Monsanto Life Sciences Research Center, to learn the world of GM elite research. Randy Hautea is head of the group's SEAsia Center in the Philippines, based in the center established by the Rockefeller Foundation's International Rice Research Institute (IRRI).
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&lt;br/&gt;Hautea recently stated that his group has targeted Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam because, "they all have the political will to pursue and adopt biotechnology applications." What Hautea did not say was that introduction of GM seeds means introduction of costly GM pesticides and other policies which only global agribusiness companies are able to carry out.
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&lt;br/&gt;Food production of target countries is being transformed into the global agribusiness market, not longer available for national food security. Hautea does not say how biotechnology brought in to, say, Indonesia or Malaysia by Syngenta or Monsanto, contributes to the benefit of small farmers, the heart of their food production. To date, in fact, there exists no proof of any benefit from GM crops for family farmers. In fact the opposite is the case. Farmers are often coerced or forced to buy Monsanto GM seeds or other GM seeds by their governments.
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&lt;br/&gt;Through ISAAA and related networks of organizations, the Rockefeller Foundation is at the center of the worldwide actions of Monsanto, DuPont, Cargill and Dow Agri-sciences, Syngenta, Bayer AG and other major biotech giants, dominating the ongoing "new Green Revolution" as Rockefeller's Conway terms it. (3).
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&lt;br/&gt;Spreading the GM control 
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&lt;br/&gt;The list of major GM plants today includes GM rice, soybeans, corn, oilseeds, and numerous other basic food crops. The Rockefeller Foundation has played a key fostering role in the development of most major new types.
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&lt;br/&gt;More than 70% of all processed foods Americans consume comes today from GM products. Almost all the animal feed used to feed cattle, and other animals in the US and in major world markets today is GM feed, mainly soymeal and corn.
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&lt;br/&gt;Most Americans are ignorant of what they eat. The US government has refused to label food that contains GM inputs. A new EU food labelling law also does not require producers to identify animal products fed on GM feed, leaving consumers ignorant of what GM products they eat. In 2003, the total acreage planted to GM seeds worldwide was 167 million acres or 68 million hectares according to ISAAA data. This was a 15% rise in one year. The United States is the largest GM grower with 106 million acres of genetically modified soybeans, corn and cotton. Worldwide, 55% of all soybeans grown now are GM crops. Soymeal is one of the most essential and richest protein sources for animal and human consumption. Every bite of a McDonald's hamburger contains as much as 30% of GM soyameal.
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&lt;br/&gt;Without even realizing, most people in North America, East Asia and Europe regularly eat products or animals fed from GM crops. What is most remarkable is the fact that farmers in North America, Australia, Argentina, and more recently after a long battle, in Brazil, have surrendered their control over seeds to a handful of multinational biotech giants who have a deliberate strategy to dominate and control the planting of basic food crops worldwide.
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&lt;br/&gt;The terminator not dead 
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&lt;br/&gt;If emerging nations from China to India to Indonesia and beyond, were to manage to create a food self-sufficiency independent of reliance on US or OECD food suppliers, the ability of the United States to remain the dominant power would diminish, regardless of military might.
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&lt;br/&gt;What better way to control the destiny of China, India, East Asia and the rest of the world than to establish permanent control over their ability to grow food? Enter Monsanto and the agriculture biotechnology cartel, who dominate GM crops globally. Just two years ago it seemed Monsanto might be headed into financial ruin. Today, it is on the verge of becoming the one of the single most powerful corporations in the world.
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&lt;br/&gt;Interestingly, it was the direct intervention of the Rockefeller Foundation in October 1999, which was responsible for the widely-touted decision of Monsanto "not to commercialize" its 'terminator technology' for GM seeds. Monsanto president Robert Shapiro wrote to the Rockefeller Foundation that it would "shelve" or put on hold its "sterile seed" technology, formally called Genetic Use Restriction Technology (GURT). The Monsanto decision was a tactical ploy, taken on advice of Rockefeller's Conway, to defulse growing opposition to GM crops, especially in Europe. Monsanto's terminator seed technology, in which the US Department of Agriculture also holds part patent rights, has been called the ultimate weapon, the 'neutron bomb' of agriculture, rightly so.
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&lt;br/&gt;Terminator seeds would solve a major problem for Monsanto and other GM giants in collecting seed fees in the developing world for patented GM seeds, something made possible a few years ago by GATT trade talks on patent rights.
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&lt;br/&gt;Free trade in agriculture is today at the heart of the WTO. Under the treaty of the World Trade Organization, created by the GATT Uruguay trade round in the early 1990's, multinational corporations now have the right, enforced by WTO sanctions, to collect royalty payments for "intellectual property."
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&lt;br/&gt;The Uruguay agreement, ratified by all GATT member countries under enormous US pressure, allows a corporation for the first time, to patent a specific plant variety, even though that plant sort might have been in the public domain in a country such as Pakistan or Peru for thousands of years. The WTO term is Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights, TRIPs. Washington pushed the controversial TRIPs agreement through GATT, accusing developing countries of 'piracy' in not paying due royalties to multinationals, claiming US companies were losing hundreds on millions in unpaid fees for fertilizer and seeds or drugs. Mickey Kantor, US Trade Representative who negotiated the Uruguay Round talks, today sits on the board of Monsanto.
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&lt;br/&gt;The TRIPs WTO agreement includes patent rights on GM plants. Under TRIPs the Swiss agri-tech company, Syngenta, holds control potentially of most of the rice in Pakistan, India and Asia. Monsanto dominates patents on soybeans, corn, cotton and other major crops. Their only problem is how to collect royalty payments from millions of small peasant farmers. Collecting patent payments for GM seeds in many developing countries is extremely difficult.
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&lt;br/&gt;Not so, if terminator seeds are sold. Terminator technology, which Monsanto paid $1.6 billion to acquire, allows introduction of a 'suicide gene' into plants such as corn or cotton or soya or potentially, even wheat. A farmer using terminator seeds no longer will be able to share seeds with other farmers or plant his own in following years. He will be forced to turn to Monsanto each season to buy his existence, in the form of more suicide seeds, as well as the special herbicides Monsanto has developed to be used with it. The original developers of terminator technology, Delta &amp;amp; Pine Land Seed, which Monsanto bought in 1998, specifically noted that the rice and wheat markets of China, India, Pakistan and such major population countries was the target of terminator. The political implications of such a development are easy to imagine.
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&lt;br/&gt;Rockefeller Foundation funds vaccines with hidden birth-control hormones
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&lt;br/&gt;The Rockefeller Foundation is among the funders of a WHO program in "reproductive health" which has developed a tetanus vaccine that allegedly contains hidden birth-control hormones.
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&lt;br/&gt;According to a report from the Global Vaccine Institute, the WHO has overseen massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines since the early 1990's. Comite Pro Vida de Mexico, a Catholic organization, tested numerous vials of the vaccine and found them to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a natural hormone needed to maintain a pregnancy. When combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier, it stimulates formation of antibodies against hCG, rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy. Similar reports of vaccines laced with hCG hormones have come from the Philippines and Nicaragua.
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&lt;br/&gt;The organization confirmed several other curious facts about the WHO vaccination programs. Tetanus vaccine was given only to women, between ages 15-45, not men or children. The presence of hCG is a clear contamination of the vaccine. It does not belong. With finan